Fogler Running as Write-In For Oakland Township Supervisor

‘I’m not finished yet,” she says.

Oakland Township Supervisor Joan Fogler is running as a write-in candidate to try to keep the seat she lost in the August primary.

Fogler lost to Terry Gonser by 547 votes, with 31 percent of the township’s registered voters participating. Because there are no Democratic candidates, Gonser’s is the only name on the ballot.

Fogler said she filed a declaration of her intent to run as a write-in with Oakland County on Friday, the deadline for the Nov. 6 election.

“I’m not finished yet,” she said. “I still love Oakland Township. I’ve lived here 58 years and I think I’ve done a good job.

“It was just a couple of issues that made me lose the election. … Since I’ve been supervisor, we have gotten a AAA bond rating with the state. We are one of two townships in the state, and that’s happened since I’ve been supervisor. We also have almost $6 million in reserves. And that’s happened since I’ve been supervisor.”

Fogler said she decided to run because of what Gonser said about her during the primary campaign.

“He accused me of having too many ordinances in place, that we’re too restrictive for the residents,” she said. “But they’ve been in place for years and years.”

She said she “took it personally” when he attacked her role as a travel escort for the Rochester Older Persons Commission. “I’m a trained travel escort,” she said. “I certainly didn’t take any money from seniors.” Fogler also said she had 75 signs stolen during the primary, something that’s never happened to her before.

In addition, she said Gonser “doesn’t know about government, particularly Oakland Township government.”

She knows she faces an uphill battle. Absentee ballots have already been mailed and some people have already voted. But she’s hoping turnout, which is generally highest for a presidential election, will be in her favor.

“I’ve been on the phone telling everybody I know and they’re calling everybody they know,” she said. “I know there are a lot of emails going out about it.”

Gonser, president of the Rochester-Area Republican Club, is a newcomer to township politics. A 60-year resident, he is a retired General Motors engineer and an entrepreneur. 

Gregory Murray November 02, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Ms. Fogler's demise is more the result of her apparent disdain for her constituents than any of the items mentioned in the article. One only needs to have attended any of the last several Township Board meetings to reach that conclusion.
francis P. Hughes November 02, 2012 at 06:45 PM
She is finished and she actually was finished some time ago when she started acting as a dictator and not an elected official. Arrogance is a terrible sin and the voting public is not always in a forgiving mood
Roger N November 02, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Both Fogler and Gonser are terrible choices. Tea party people going door to door spreading lies, stealing signs. Is there another choice? Oakland Township will go through the mess Troy has.
Another concerned citizen November 02, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Folger, It is time to leave. You may not be ready but the citizens are. They have voted and they have said it is time to leave. You have not been working in the best interest of the taxpayers. So have some self respect and diginity and go!
Encouraged Citizen November 02, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Joan- All you did in this article is talk about YOURSELF and what YOU want. This is why you were voted out by the Oakland Twp. residents. It doesn't matter if you fee that you are done or not, WE, the people say you are done. What arrogance! You did not do a good job, you were, and are still are a dictator. The sad thing for you now is that you will be a dictator with no power come November 20. You brought this on yourself and Oakland Twp. needs Terry Gonser to turn the mess you will be leaving around. You could have gone out with some grace, but this move is just sad, pathetic and ill advised.
Beth November 02, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Joan as a write-in candidate....I love it! It wasn’t enough that Mr. Gonser beat her by a 59% to 41% margin in the Primary? She has supervised dreadful decisions regarding both the Paint Creek Dam and Blossom Ridge, seemingly against the will of the people, but she has MORE to do?! She has utter disdain for the residents, based on her behavior at the Board meetings. Bless her heart, she even seemed to “flip off” the residents at the October BOT meeting. Alternatively, Mr. Gonser did not say or print a SINGLE negative word about Joan in all of his campaign literature and speeches. Can we all just say, “hubris” and move on?
Concerned November 02, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Please make sure you vote this Tuesday and let it be known that Mr. Gonser is the choice of the citizens of Oakland Township. I lost all respect for Ms. Folger when she took a campaign donation from the Moceri camp while the issue of Blossom Ridge is active and ongoing.
Proud Mary November 02, 2012 at 10:35 PM
It is TIME.
Long time resident November 03, 2012 at 07:58 PM
grateful citizen November 03, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Over 70% did not vote so they must have been totally displeased with their government. Boy are they going to be shocked. I love living here and thank and respect the people who made it possible by their governance. Our ordinances are what made this township desirable . In the interest of transparency What Exactly was Mr. Gonzers position and what are the two companies he founded, Successful? Still exist? My GM people find the claim of 500Million budget totally false. We have a township that has 6Million in bank and AAA bond rating. They did something right. Keep your eye on the cookie jar and watch it vanish in litigation caused by a supervisor and board , of politicians instead of public servants with no experience,minimal residency and zero prior public service.Lets fire the township manager too and increase the supervisors pay 600% to 160,000. Be ignorant with an attitude and reap the fruits of your lack of participation. Kick out our wonderful Fire Chief. In fact destroy every vestige of what made this the place we chose to live
Nestof Vipers November 04, 2012 at 12:12 AM
I do have genuine concerns about the cookie jar - as a result of the current BOT's actions, lead by Joan Fogler and Marc Edwards, I do believe we're in for some serious litigation, especially regarding the Dam project. You know, the Dam that Joan said HAD to be removed? And she and Marc completely understood the engineering? The Dam she said the State was going to remove, but that was a lie. You know, the Dam where we would get "free money" from Washington? I have concerns. As for the ordinances that are so great, Supervisor Fogler went on record last month stating that there were "very few changes to Ordinance 16," and had to be corrected by Larry Nix, the planner that, "there are significant changes." As far as removing the Township Manager, and increasing the Supervisor's salary, clearly, sir/madam, you know not of what you speak. To increase the Supervisor's salary by 600% would only cover a little over one-half of what we pay Mr. Creech.
Proud Mary November 04, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Proud Mary Gonser is not spreading lies. The fear tactic label of Tea Party is incorrect. I was visited by several incoming candidates, and they ran on transparency and the desire to stop wasteful and unnecessary spending. They also ran on spending tax dollars more wisely and offering services to residents. (not just sitting on 6 mil and claiming to have a great bond rating.) All you need to do is research what Gonser is saying, and you will find he is telling the truth. I did.
Joan M. Buser November 04, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Gosner said: "we must protect private property rights at all costs." Is he from Dogpatch? Expect to see junk cars in front yards. He wouldn't want to deny anybody their property rights. It's not too late. Vote for sanity in government. WRITE IN JOAN FOGLER FOR SUPERVISOR.
Beth November 04, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Since you're not a citizen, tax-payer or property owner in Oakland Township, just exactly how do you plan on doing that? Just curious.
Nestof Vipers November 04, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Dear Mrs. Buser, Halloween was on the 31st, stop trying to scare people. Mr. Gonser ran a clean campaign on issues that the people wanted addressed. You know little things like: Transparency in government Televising meetings Putting the townships finances on the internet You know, so we THE PEOPLE would know that Supervisor Fogler told the Township Manager to put “Free Wifi” in the Paint Creek Mill Against their will. Mrs. Buser if I didn’t know better I would say you put your old friend and lackey Joan up to this, because you don’t have residence here in the township anymore. Either way, it doesn’t really matter because the people told her to go in August and I have Great Faith they will tell her the same thing on Tuesday. See you at the polls, Nestof Oh wait, since you can’t vote in Oakland Township perhaps I won’t have the pleasure.
Another concerned citizen November 04, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Mrs. Buser, It was a pleasure to see you leave, and it will be a pleasure to see Fogler leave. The taxpayers have spoken. So save your voice. No one is interested in has been self serving supervisors. The residents will vote again and will prevail again.
Resident for 27 years November 05, 2012 at 12:42 AM
Will do! Less than 30% of the residents voted in August...so the latest election was a total JOKE! Let's bring back Oakland Township to the respectable place that it has been to live for over 27 years for me. Hate to see what this new crew will do.
Joan M. Buser November 05, 2012 at 02:12 AM
I just love how all you opinionated people don't have the courage to use your real names on the posts. You deserve to live with each other. I hate to see the work of so many years trashed. You are truly a "nest of vipers".
Proud Mary November 05, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Might I remind you the most desirable quality of a community is its people, and the people have chosen Mr. Gonser. May you someday realize that contempt and disrespect are not virtues that build a community.
Joan M. Buser November 05, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Contempt and disrespect was in full bloom during the August primary, if not by Mr. Gonser, than by his "behind the scenes" supporters. Look into the minutes of the Oakland Township Board meeting if you want to see what real contempt and disrespect looks like. Look under citizens' comments. I agree, contempt and disrespect are not virtues, but attributes that destroy a community. How long will it take before Oakland Township citizens realize that the government they elected in August is bent on destroying the very ordinances that kept Oakland Township the desirable place they chose to live? Mr. Gonser has no idea that the "freedom from law" he preaches, infringes on the freedom for citizens too protect their property rights through the very ordinances he seeks to abolish.
Beth November 05, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Mrs. Buser, I simply could not agree more with your statement, "Look into the minutes of the Oakland Township Board meeting if you want to see what real contempt and disrespect looks like." Having watched Fogler & Edwards on the BOT ridicule, mock, disdain, and otherwise disrespect our citizens at every single meeting for the last 2 years, I can speak first-hand about it. Yes, I do agree, "contempt and disrespect was in full bloom"...and I can tell you how and where it got started, and by whom...our current Supervisor.
Another concerned citizen November 05, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Mrs. Buser, You would know about disrespect. I have been going to the twp meetings for two years and have seen it first hand by Mrs. Fogler and Mr. Edwards. They are the image of disrespect. I guess the apple doe't fall far from the tree of supervisors. Remember the latest meetings you have attended. I sat behind you and you were so disresptfull while residents had their turn to speak. So you call us vipers! That is a very mature thing to say. So with that you should pick your words more wisely. Vipers bite with venom!
Hot Wine November 05, 2012 at 08:30 PM
So I guess the good bye note by Mrs. Fogler in the recent Fall 2012 township update was a mistake? Joan, the voters have spoken, retire with some dignity and grace.
Beth November 07, 2012 at 02:36 AM
OOOKKKKaaayyyy, so with one-half of the precincts reporting, we have Supervisor Elect Mr. Gonser with 6,021 votes and Madam Supervisor with 141. That's only a difference of about 94%, so I'm eager to see the remaining 4 precinct's numbers!
Nestof Vipers November 07, 2012 at 02:55 AM
This just in, CNN & Fox News had just announced that Joan Fogler has lost her attempted write in campaign against Terry Gonser for Oakland Township Supervisor. CNN made particular note of the fact that because Fogler lost by more than 94 points, there will be no grounds for a recount. They did, however, ask what Dog Patch is. Coming up after the commercial break, “A New Era for Oakland Township Now that Fogler is Finished”
Another concerned citizen November 07, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Mrs. Buser, The vipers have bitten watch out for the venom!
Char Kruse November 08, 2012 at 01:20 PM
Mrs. Buser, I remember your reign well, I have lived here for 38 years! At one time when I had 3 little kids, unemployed husband, you made it known to the press that "nobody in Oakland Township was needy". and yes Joan F. has worked for us however, it is time for her to retire,besides,her's and your harrassment of the Barkham family and their businesses have been shameful. they should get you on bullying!
Joan M. Buser November 10, 2012 at 01:39 AM
"A New Era for Oakland Township", the epitaph on the tombstone.
Nestof Vipers November 14, 2012 at 03:48 AM
Mrs. Fogler, It was a real pleasure watching you chair your last meeting as Oakland Township Supervisor. To say it was a great night in the history of Oakland Township is a mild understatement. It’s just too bad that had to leave on such a sour note with Barkham family. But after the last 8 years I have come to expect nothing less from you. I wish you all the best in your retirement, Nestof
wildheart December 31, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Joan Fogler used her position as Township Supervisor to protect her family’s interests and the family farm business that they operate on Rochester road. Anyone that threatened that business or created competition the Township would improperly use its governmental powers to shut them down. They did it with the barkham family and their cider-mill and with the Rochester Rd is a greenhouse and garden center which is now sitting vacant. There were two different owners of that land and both could tell you stories about the harassment they received from both Joan Buser and Joan Fogler and the cronies of Oakland Township. “Shameful”


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